Tuesday, April 12, 2005

Student Reads Message Board, Nearly Pees Pants

Okay, this is a long post, brought to you by the Committee to Remove Self-Censorship, for the benefit of anyone looking to kill some time. My buddies and I decided a response was necessary to an ongoing commentary on the message board regarding Fox News. Basically, there was some back and forth about our favorite fair and balanced news network. One student posted a story about a device someone had invented that blocks Fox from your TV. Repubs were up in arms, told us Marxists to just change the channel if we didn't like it, someone responded, it's not about us not liking it, it's about Fox telling outright lies, along with several examples.

Then a student posted this:
I agree with [Snipey]. If a *cable* television viewer doesn't like Fox News, then (s)he should CHANGE THE CHANNEL. It's not network news; it's cable. And, it's a choice. I choose to turn on Fox and Friends in the morning, not CNN or MSNBC or the KARE 11 morning show. If Fox just happens to attract a wide-spread audience, then great. It's just too bad that the other networks haven't yet figured out how to capture their own niche audience.

To which I responded:
"Niche" is appropriate for a talking-heads program, not something that purports to be "news."

And Matt responded:

The point of the article that [one of our Marxists comrades] posted is that Fox news is not just biased, but it tells blatant political lies. The point is not that they have shoddy fact-checking, but that they did not fact-check at all, shoddy or otherwise--they lied. If Fox editors had done even "shoddy" fact-checking, they would have realized that the story about Kerry's statements on his cuticles was not remotely factually grounded. Instead, somebody else had to fact-check Fox's story, so that Fox could retract its story and issue an apology.

News is not entertainment. It is for the purpose of informing people. News may present news in one style or another to meet a target niche's expectations. If Fox's target niche expects lies, then they have found their network.


And Geoff responded:

I agree entirely with the last post about networks needing to find niches. It IS too bad that the other news networks haven't figured out how to get their own niche audience yet.

I have hope for them though. They COULD do it. If they just did what Fox News did - like resort to, you know, pandering - they would really get that core constituency of viewers. The ones who just want to hear somebody tell them what they "knew" all along and call it "news." Hmmmm. Maybe they should call it "knews."

Unfortunately, ABC, CBS, and NBC haven't quite made the leap yet. They might, from time to time, engage in shoddy reporting, like the stuff Dan mentioned. But for the most part, they have attempted to maintain high journalistic standards. Fools. They could learn a thing or two from Rupert Murdoch's crew over at Fox News, where you get to hear the new just the way Scott McLellan would report it! In fact, that could be a daily segment. "The News, with Scott McLellan." On second thought, nevermind. The current administration would never attempt to infiltrate the news media with paid operatves.

Or better, you could parade talking head after talking head on air to shill for the party of your choice!

What's that? Fox News already does that?

Wow. Those glorious bastards! No wonder they have found such a loyal niche!

I think we should just get rid of any pretense of unbiased journalism altogether! Whad'ya say? If all we really want is to be told that we are right, we might as well
stop listening to anyone who might tell us we are wrong. That's the niche, right?


Okay, here's the good part! Snipey responds:

Oh WOW!...liberals really need to grow up (can dish it out but can't take it) and quit the whining! Some of the postings are plain ridiculous. I mean, how do you know what is a lie and what isn't? Were you there when the news happened? Hasn't society over and over again through out history proven that people will hear what they want to hear? I mean look at the abortion issue, euthanasia, capitol punishment, sexual harassment, abuse, and so on. We all accept things on different moral foundations. When a news media reports criminal news such as the recent nation wide manhunt for Stephen Stanko, society is already biased in how they accept the news ("Oh my gosh! There is a rapist/killer loose!!"). Even though he is now caught, people believe he did it. So is the media wrong in their reporting on the manhunt? I mean I have never heard a network say "the police are looking for a suspect in a murder, but viewers, PLEASE remember that the suspect is INNOCENT until proven guilty".

Also, stop crying about the Bush administration and your "black government" theories. Bottom line is the democratic voice of the American people spoke (yes, all those dumb redneck naive uneducated voters) and the country as a whole voted for George W. Bush. (We won't talk about all the felons that voted for the D. Party, I mean why didn't they vote for the R. Party? Oh wait they can't vote). Make sure you get someone of your agenda in office next time (with out the aid of non-eligible voting felons). Also, maybe use more "civil" tactics rather that silly demonstrations with silly signs parading around downtown. I do believe that we as a society can do this.

If you don't like how things are done, please go make changes but don't be bitter and dwell upon the past and start mud slinging because of what certain corners such as the Fox News network has to say. Proposing censorship on media networks such as Fox News is against everything that our country stands for. (Or do we change the rules for whiners?) Or maybe we should follow Nazi/Communism regimes of only certain "truthful" media. This being controlled by whatever Party is in the White House. I mean, come on!

Again, push the remote button on your cable and go watch Dan Rather (I mean CBS) for your "pure" no lie, hidden agenda, middle road, news media. Don't try to tell me or others that I can't watch a certain show because it just all lies, thus wrong (Or am I in this "lies" niche, which I take as being unintelligent, which I DO take offense to and makes me want to....but I won't since I cherish people's freedom of speech). This is a free country, and I don't harass people that I see reading silly things such as the City Pages, because of what you as an American has chosen to read.

It's hard to decide which is my favorite part. I think it's the section about silly signs and silly demonstrations, although the suggestion that liberals get their news from the City Pages is pretty rich. What is a "civil" tactic? Maybe the Bush administration's practice of penning protesters up in certain restricted areas is civil, that's free speech in this country. And what was he going to say near the end there, "makes me want to..." ? You know, the whole thing is really just too good for words, there's not much else I can say. I'll just keep drinking my coffee and try not to pee my pants from laughing so hard.

9 Comments:

At 10:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was he even responding to? Half his post was about the news, responding to things unsaid (censorship?), but half was just about his stereotypes of "liberals."

I wonder if he was silent and gracious when the "democratic voice of the American People" elected Clinton.

Anyway, these posts bore me. Post more kitten pictures please.

 
At 10:53 PM, Blogger Ugly Juice said...

He was responding to Matt, Geoff, and me. He was just slapping a label on us as liberals (which is confusing! Because he labeled us as Marxist before, which we have embraced. It's hard to keep up with the labels!) and then just made up a bunch of crap.

I should post more kitty pictures, or a video of Car and The Wiz chasing each other in circles around the house.

 
At 11:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I understand who he was resplying to and talking at, but who was he responding to? His visions.

 
At 8:53 AM, Blogger Ugly Juice said...

Update: Snipey got skewered for his comments. Blood & guts all over the place.

 
At 8:58 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Snipey is clearly an angry, sexually repressed individual who is so eager to get into conflict that he will gleefully engage anyone, (including the liberal Marxist faction -?!?!) with buckets of ridiculous off topic vom. Really, does spouting off nonsensical bologna make him believe that anyone will believe he is a big man? Oh…that’s right…he IS…that’s why he can shoot people from long range. Silly, girly me! Someone outta tell me to stick to preparing myself for beauty pagents..I mean "celebrations of feminine beauty" event. Maybe he should just sit back and be pleased that he can walk around in this state and massage his concealed, manly 6-shooter anytime he pleases. Scarier still is the fact that this guy will take his bullshine on the road professional like. Will he be "fair and balanced" when representing a client whose personal beliefs he doesn't agree with? If he shows the same kind of on-topic rebutting skills in a court of law that he did in his post, his court appearances may prove to be better entertainment than any whack job pundit on Fox. Scary, dude.
Agree with Shad - more pictures of fluffy, funny kitties, please.

 
At 9:50 AM, Blogger Lorn said...

Gosh, someone should slap labels on him!

[Insert conservative adjective du jour for how pansy-assed and whiny liberals are here] is my favorite kind of "insult."

It's also nice to have the stock "if you don't like it go change it, not complain about it" comment. Because in my experience talking about and discussing these things has just as much effect as "doing something about it."

 
At 10:54 AM, Blogger Ugly Juice said...

I think M, G, and I dream about meeting him in the court room.
"Objection...relevance?"
"Objection, Your Honor, he still hasn't made a point."
"Objection, Your Honor, Counsel is pointing a six-shooter at me from under his suit-coat."
"Um, Your Honor, Counsel just called me a Communist."
(bored sighs, pouring glass of water)

 
At 4:12 PM, Blogger Dr Em said...

i think the silly signs and silly demonstrations must have happened in those silly free speech zones!

 
At 8:22 PM, Blogger Ugly Juice said...

Oh! Silly, silly, us! I guess we didn't notice that we LOST! So now we better just shut up! That's what we get for pulling all those felons out of jail and driving them to the polls! (That's what we did, right? I got confused.)

 

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